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The End Is Just the Beginning

Sometimes the world needs heroes. But in the desperation of these last days, the world will take all those it can get: heroes, blackguards, madmen, and whoever else is willing to stand against the coming darkness. Will you fight the demons or will you burn it all down and dance among the ashes? Who will you become when the world dies? 

Shadow of the Demon Lord® opens a door to an imaginary world held in the grip of a cosmic destroyer. Enter a land steeped in the chaos and madness unleashed by the end times, with whole realms overrun by howling herds of beastmen, warped spirits freed from the Underworld, and unspeakable horrors stirred awaken by the Demon Lord’s imminent arrival. 

A complete tabletop roleplaying game in one book, Shadow of the Demon Lord provides everything you need to create and play characters, form groups in pursuit of adventure, and tell exciting stories with your friends. As well, the book gives Game Masters all the tools they need to create adventures, over one hundred foul creatures, a detailed region of the campaign world, and extensive advice to help run the game.

As the Demon Lord’s shadow creeps across the world, it creates the chance for heroes to seize their destinies and villains to accomplish their despicable goals. As you play the game, you and your friends tell stories about thwarting the plots of twisted cultists, hunting down and destroying bizarre demons, exploring lost lands, investigating weird mysteries, and so much more.

 
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Andrew B February 28, 2017 2:25 am UTC
I think this is mainly a DriveThruRPG/RPGnow thing, but considering the newfound pervasiveness of this setting and its supplementary products, and the uniqueness of its system, shouldn't the "Shadow of the Demon Lord" Rule System have its own tag(s) by now? I don't know how to address this myself in any other way, but I think it would be useful, and fitting, for this material.
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Konstantinos P December 18, 2016 5:51 pm UTC
I'm bit confused! While most of Sotdl books are available as POD, the core is not! I know that we have the option to buy form the official site but shipping costs are out of the question. Will we ever see the day of a simple POD?
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Luke W December 18, 2016 6:05 pm UTC
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See the comment right below this one :)
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Matthew K December 18, 2016 6:43 pm UTC
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Indeed, as mentioned in the previous comment, there should be options to buy from UK / European retailers, with minimum shipping costs to Europe (assuming that's where you live?).
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Matteo T September 29, 2016 1:28 pm UTC
There will be POD version/option?
Where I live obtain the traditional paper version is no longer an option.
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Luke W September 29, 2016 5:13 pm UTC
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There isn't at the moment. But you can order a print version from Sxhwalb Entertainment direct that should be able to be delivered to anywhere DTRPG can deliver their POD books.
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Matteo T September 30, 2016 6:14 am UTC
Yes, I saw that. But shipping costing more than the book is, as I've said, not an option :/
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Luke W September 30, 2016 9:00 am UTC
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There will be other options out there. Where have you looked? https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Demon-SDL1000-Robert-Schwalb/dp/1495168867/

The other benefit is the book will be quite a bit cheaper (by $10-20 IME) than a colour POD here, so maybe the shipping cost washes out somewhat.
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Matthew K September 30, 2016 9:04 am UTC
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Where do you live?
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Luke W September 30, 2016 9:22 am UTC
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New Zealand. The land where shipping costs are often greater than the product :)
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Matteo T September 30, 2016 10:04 am UTC
On Schwalb site the book is at $49 and the shipping to Italy is at $49. No convenience at all.
Amazon list it at €110 plus shipping cost from US. (We can buy only from Amazon.it)
maybe ebay...
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Matteo T September 30, 2016 10:05 am UTC
Italy.
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Matthew K September 30, 2016 11:53 am UTC
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You can buy it at Ludarati (UK store) and looks like they'll ship it to Italy for only £5. £43 in total (about €50).

http://www.ludoraticafestore.com/shadow-of-the-demon-lord-rpg-core-book.html
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Luke W September 30, 2016 6:14 pm UTC
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Nice.
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SengKok L September 06, 2016 7:01 am UTC
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It would be nice to have a bundle of the supplements and a bundle of the adventures at a small discount. I am planning to get all of them eventually but if there is a small savings by buying them all at one go that would be an easy decision.
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Marcelino S September 04, 2016 5:03 am UTC
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One of the best games I've played in a long time. I love this game. I love the concept. I love the art. I love the world. I just want a way to buy supplements in bundles because I am lost at how many their are and what I need. I'm not saying I want a lower price just an easier way to get everything. Because of how good the game is I want everything. And I want a hard copy of everything too. I know I'm asking too much. However you guys have a great game and I can't wait to see where it goes.
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Charles M May 19, 2016 5:33 pm UTC
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I've played the game a few times and enjoyed it enough to pick up a copy.

The PDF isn't bad, but it's still is just an electronic version of the book. The two column layout may work for the paper version, but it kind-of sucks electronically. Viewing on a smartphone (or even mid sized tablet) is a squinty affair that results in lots of zooming and panning.

And while there is a table of contents, there are no hyperlinks. The page numbers of the text index do correspond to the page numbers in the doc, but hyperlinks would have been better.

Also a spell index would have been nice too. The spells are organized by magical tradition rather than alphabetically - which makes it a pain to look up a spell when you don't know what tradition it's from.
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Charles M May 19, 2016 11:39 pm UTC
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Correction: The index is hyperlinked. The PDF reader on my PC does not recognize the links. The one on my tablet does.
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Giulio T April 18, 2016 7:32 am UTC
I was thinking of giving this game a try.

The only thing that hold me back is the career creep in the supplements, that is already here: a bunch of careers in the Companion, along what seems a bunch of "random" rules addition that, IMHO, they could have been squeezed in the main rulebook.
If this game will continue, I would much prefer a rule companion AND a career companion, without the needs of shuffling trough dozens of books.
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May 12, 2016 8:30 am UTC
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They are for the most part optional, or thematic (e.g. Terrible Beauty contains fae characters that wouldn't normally fit in an adventuring party like hobgoblins).

The core book is very much a complete product - only thing I thought missing that's found elsewhere is the halfling character rules in the Companion. The rest is add ons for the keen, worth it but not essential.
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Alan P January 11, 2016 1:50 pm UTC
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While this is most definitely not an "all ages" game, I've found it to be an incredibly compelling setting and system. It's easy to get into, rewards the dreaded multiclassing that some tabletop systems flee from, and allows a huge amount of simple storytelling by preparing the GM with provocative descriptions of spells, creatures, and locations.

Your campaign has a pre-defined end point, so there's not an ongoing and open commitment needed from the players -- they know how many adventures are left before the proverbial doomsday clock hits midnight. In my experience, this means that the players are going to make more impactful choices and will retain more of the overall game experience, and I'm not just talking about experience points.

It's not D&D.

It's not Warhammer Fantasy.

Maybe it's Maybelline?

Nah, it's the Shadow of the Demon Lord.
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Rodrigo C January 10, 2016 9:58 am UTC
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It feels kind of stupid to ask, but what's the difference between the three files?
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January 11, 2016 1:10 am UTC
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One is printer friendly. The other corrects some issues.
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Rodrigo C January 11, 2016 5:02 am UTC
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Thanks!
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Scott M April 28, 2016 2:05 am UTC
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Is there a difference in content between SotDL_Core_PDF_9-11-2015.pdf and SotDL_Core_NOBG_PDF_10-30-2015.pdf?

Sounds like they are the same.
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Luke W April 28, 2016 2:07 am UTC
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SotDL_Core_PDF_9-11-2015.pdf is a later file of the two with small corrections/changed made to it.
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Luke W April 28, 2016 2:21 am UTC
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Sorry I meant SotDL_Core_NOBG_PDF_10-30-2015.pdf is the later one.
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vegar F January 05, 2016 5:43 pm UTC
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I heard that this game was another D&D reskin, so I have ignored it until now.

I recently heard that it was the spiritual successor to warhammer fantasy, and since i love the warhammer games (both fantasy and 40k), i got the book.

I was still disappointed, not too much, but still disappointed.

It retains a lot of flaws from D&D, and only does a few things differently, but these things isnt exactly good. To me, the game comes out as flawed, but in a neat package.

So for people who want to take a break from D&D, mechanical-wise, or simply dislike D&D systems, this game is not for you. But if you want a minor change in mechanics or a change in lore, while still keeping the spirit of D&D, this game could very well be it.
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Matthew K January 06, 2016 7:03 am UTC
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Having actually played this game, and coming from a group who has played campaigns in both WFRP (all 3 editions) and D&D (4th and 5th), I couldn't disagree more.

In my eyes, the only thing it really carries over from D&D is the d20 dice. It is far more a WFRP evolution than D&D.

Do you mind sharing which "flaws from D&D" you mention?
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Sylvain P January 07, 2016 4:49 am UTC
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What an odd guy, he wrote the very same thing about Symbaroum, and on the same day. I guess he's on a "post-holidays angst-fueled copy-paste rampage".

On the one hand, he doesn't say why the mechanics are bad. On the other hand, he says that the mechanics are similar to D&D 5e, but just why or how this is a flaw, I have no idea.

Here is what he said about Symbaroum:

""""
This game is a D&D retexture

I'm trying to improve as a GM and is borrowing ideas from many different games, and I've found that D&D is inherently flawed in so many way that I cant mention 1 single reason for why its not good.

I had hoped that Symbaroum had some good concepts, but I see that it retains close to all the flaws from D&D, but set it in a different and interesting setting.

So I cant reccomend the game for people like me, nor people who dislike D&D, but for those who do? it could be a interessting setting...See more
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January 07, 2016 6:36 pm UTC
I'd also be very interested in hearing him elaborate on his points and break them down for either game, or ideally both.
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November 16, 2015 8:34 am UTC
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I really like the look of this game, shame there is no print option though, especially as they are offering Tales of the Demon Lord in print.
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November 16, 2015 4:37 pm UTC
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The books are on a boat from a printer. You will be able to purchase the print copy from your FLGS or SchwalbEntertainment.com in just a couple weeks.
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Stephen B January 06, 2016 4:51 pm UTC
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What about in the UK? No FLGS I know are selling it. And how come we can't get a print copy from DriveThru when your other SotDL books are in print? I'd love to buy this game but I'm still waiting for a print and pdf option.
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Luke W January 06, 2016 7:37 pm UTC
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SotDL is available through distribution in the UK. What UKhave you made order enquiries of? I hear Leisure Ganes and Orcs Nest are both good and I would expect them both to sort you out if you talk to them. Failing that SotDL is available in EU stores like Spharenmeisters (http://www.sphaerenmeisters-spiele.de/epages/15455106.mobile/de_AT/?ObjectPath=/Shops/15455106/Products/SCE001&Locale=de_AT). Its also available through Amazon.SotDL has been so popular it may currently be in the process of being restocked.

As to why the SotDL corebook is not available in POD, the reason is the price would be too high for a book of the same quality as can be obtained though retail, even after factoring in shipping and PDF bundling.
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Stephen B January 14, 2016 1:38 am UTC
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At the time of writing UK shops weren't selling the main rulebook, but as of this week copies are available. Still a shame there is no "bits and mortar" offer. I've ordered a copy of the main rulebook, does anyone know if it's possible to get a pdf free or for a reduced price with proof of purchase?
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Luke W January 14, 2016 2:16 am UTC
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There is no print/PDF bundle currently available.
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March 04, 2016 10:49 am UTC
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Just checked Leisure Games and Orc's Nest: both list this with an RRP of £34.99 but alas 'unavailable'.
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Luke W March 04, 2016 5:32 pm UTC
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Supply is struggling to keep up with demand. I would contact those stores and ask them if they will make an order for more.
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Scott N October 31, 2015 8:51 pm UTC
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Is there ever going to be a POD for this? I would like to pickup a copy soon.
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Matthew K November 01, 2015 12:25 am UTC
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I believe the print version will be "traditional" and not POD. Certainly those of us who backed the Kickstarter will be getting a traditional print book.

So make a request from your FLGS in the New Year if you want a print version.
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Luke W November 03, 2015 3:01 am UTC
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The rulebook is being offset printed (not POD) and will be available to purchase in December. You can see photos of it here:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/432417423/shadow-of-the-demon-lord/posts/1382771
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Scott N November 15, 2015 3:11 pm UTC
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Wow thats a real bummer, so no discount for buying the pdf, great.
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Scott N December 07, 2015 1:46 pm UTC
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@ Matt K: Would but I don't have one, the only other way I can get one is either off Amazon or Ebay (and ebay is usually too expensive). Some of us don't have the luxury of a FLGS and live in a big city area.
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Matthew K December 07, 2015 3:03 pm UTC
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I think maybe you can buy a print copy from the publisher when it's released:

http://shop.schwalbentertainment.com/collections/shadow-of-the-demon-lord/products/shadow-of-the-demon-lord
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Luke W December 07, 2015 5:17 pm UTC
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The book is hitting the usual retail channels as we speak, which include stores in the US and overseas. I recommend keeping an eye on Noble Knight Games, who also sell via eBay.
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Luke W December 07, 2015 7:03 pm UTC
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Dicehead Games just confirmed that they have them: www.dicehead.com
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Matt M October 28, 2015 6:32 pm UTC
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I've tried printing this a couple times to a couple different printers, and Acrobat unfortunately gets the spinning color wheel and stops responding. I'm guessing it's because there's too much data trying to go to the printer. Would it be possible to get a printer-friendly version (or an updated version that allows users to turn off layers) at some point in the future, please?
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Matthew K October 28, 2015 7:13 pm UTC
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This has been requested multiple times in the Google+ community, and Rob has promised that is in the works and should be ready soon (hoping in a matter of weeks).

https://plus.google.com/111732907786083410794/posts/E53KNcodXxS

and

https://plus.google.com/+RobertSchwalb/posts/jZa6JkKppuM
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Matt M October 28, 2015 7:15 pm UTC
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Thanks for the info! :)
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Scott N September 25, 2015 8:19 pm UTC
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The 9-11-2015 PDF is full of missing pages, errors and no cover, what is wrong with this version? The 8-31-15 version is fine, I don't get it what did you guys do in the update that ruined it?
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Matthew K September 26, 2015 6:44 am UTC
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I'm reading it now and there are no such issues. The Google+ community is likewise full of people reading this version, all obtained from here. I also just redownloaded it and it's fine.

Which means the errors must be on your end. Try downloading it on a different browser or platform, or try saving it to Dropbox by finding it in your Library and choosing that option.
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Chad M September 26, 2015 2:13 pm UTC
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Ditto what Matt K said. I'm looking at it right now, staring at the cover page. No such issues exist.
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Luke W October 05, 2015 7:32 pm UTC
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My version is complete and has a cover. I expect that the PDF corrupted when you downloaded it. I suggest that you try again.
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Scott N October 08, 2015 6:29 pm UTC
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I did it twice, sent to my dropbox its still no cover and missing pages on both ends. I'm trying again but it seems the 8-31 version is the only one I can get to work right????
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Scott N October 08, 2015 6:30 pm UTC
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This really wouldn't be a big deal if they would just put up a POD version, rather have it in a book form anyhow.
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Matthew K October 08, 2015 7:24 pm UTC
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No-one else is reporting this issue, and there is a vibrant community on Google+ all discussing the book from this PDF, so I would strongly advise you try a different browser from a desktop or laptop. It might help us replicate the issue if you told us which browser you're using (inc version) and what platform / OS you are accessing it from (i.e. desktop PC with Windows 7 64-bit, Android phone with Chrome browser, etc).
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Chad M October 08, 2015 8:15 pm UTC
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@Scott N, you might want to contact DriveThruRPG because this really doesn't sound like an issue with the PDF. There's a Google+ group for Shadow of the Demon Lord with about 500 members, and I haven't seen anyone else having this issue, so I don't think it's really a problem with the PDF.
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Luke W October 12, 2015 2:29 am UTC
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The print version of the book will be released in December (give or take a month or so to get it into distribution).
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Scott N October 31, 2015 8:50 pm UTC
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I got it to work after re-downloading again. I think I had a corrupt downloaded file for some reason.
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Chad M September 13, 2015 3:00 pm UTC
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Another thing I LOVE about the game is how it's so easy to figure out what you need to roll on a d20 to accomplish an attribute-based task (like a strength or agility challenge roll).

10. You need a 10. Except for attacks, where the target# is the target's Defense score, you always need a 10. Modifiers adjust the roll, but you don't have to mentally figure out THAC0. It's SO much easier than calculating THAC0 in my opinion.

Player is being pursued by bandits through a lightly wooded are. He comes to a sheer 20' cliff that blocks his path of escape. His only choices are to climb the cliff, or face the bandits, so he chooses to climb as fast as he can. He has an Agility score of 12, which brings with it a +2 modifier (each point above or below 10 on an attribute score grants a +1 or -1 modifier). The cliff is sheer but there are handholds, so the target is just the standard 10. The player needs to roll an 8 to successfully climb the cliff (8 + 2 = 10).

It's very easy to...See more
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Chad M September 12, 2015 3:45 pm UTC
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One of the things I like about the game is completely doing away with the pretense of experience points. They were always just a big old waste of time anyway. It's not as if every DM and GM out there didn't fudge the numbers anyway to either help their players advance a level or hold them back for some reason.

At the end of each adventure in SotDL, the players advance a level. Period. Easy. Adventures usually take one session of gameplay, so one level per session, but if an adventure takes two sessions to complete, so be it, but at the end of each adventure, boom. The players advance a level.

No more wasting time pretending like the math ads up and "Huzzah! Looks like you guys have enough experience to move up a level!" Just move them up and save the mental energy trying to keep track of experience.

That's just one of the many things I like about this game and how it streamlines gameplay.
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Matthew K September 12, 2015 4:44 pm UTC
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Completely agree. I've always hated tracking them. Also, misding a session always puts you behind in those systems. Experience points belong in the past and in computer games!
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Matt M September 12, 2015 5:40 pm UTC
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Yep. One of the things that really bugs me about OD&D (and the OSR games that seek to emulate it) is the fact that bonuses you receive from your class are mainly bonuses to XP received. I personally prefer to have the party level up together, and even if a player can't make a session, I don't want to penalize them by not giving them XP. SotDL just says, "Screw it!" and writes it into the rules that PCs level up in a less mechanical way. I like that a lot!
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